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Judi Dench and Ian McKellen Call for People to Live Authentically

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by Chris Tremblay  Aug 25

Dame Judi Dench has said that people should be free to live authentically without being forced to disclose private information about themselves.

The Oscar-winning actor made the comments in a forthcoming episode of Tea With Judi Dench a Sky Arts programme in which she speaks with Sir Ian McKellen about their lives, careers and friendship.

“It’s a private matter, but nobody should ever feel that they can’t intrinsically be themselves,” Dench said in an excerpt reported ahead of the programme’s broadcast.

She added that nobody should be made to feel they had to declare anything about themselves, including their “sexuality, religion” or age.

“It’s not about what we do but as long as people can live authentically as themselves, I feel that that is quite important,” Dench said.

The remarks form part of a conversation between two longstanding friends, one of whom is openly gay and has spent decades speaking publicly about LGBTQ+ rights and the importance of personal freedom.

McKellen reflects on coming out and Section 28



McKellen is expected to discuss coming out as gay and his role in opposing Section 28, the policy introduced under the government of Margaret Thatcher that prohibited local authorities from “promoting” homosexuality.

The actor is also expected to speak about what he has described as one of his greatest regrets: not telling his parents the truth about his sexuality.

In the programme, McKellen also warns that rights that are established can still be removed.

“We should always be alert to the possibility that established rights can be removed,” McKellen said, according to the previewed interview.

He continued by saying that telling younger people how freedoms were won could, “one day, regrettably, come in handy.”

The discussion therefore connects McKellen’s personal experience of concealing his sexuality with the wider history of legal and political battles affecting LGBTQ+ people in the United Kingdom.

A friendship spanning the stage



Dench and McKellen have been friends for more than five decades and have appeared together in several stage productions.

Their shared theatrical work includes *The Promise* in 1967, *Too True To Be Good* in 1975 and the Royal Shakespeare Company’s 1976 production of *Macbeth*.

A preview clip shows McKellen telling Dench that he had been “in the depths of stage fright” before receiving her support.

“What magic empathy you had,” McKellen tells her in the clip.

The programme’s wider conversation covers Shakespeare, performance anxiety and the insecurities associated with acting in major film franchises.

It also addresses their experiences of global fame through Dench’s work in the James Bond films and McKellen’s roles in *The Lord of the Rings* and the *X-Men* films.

The special was filmed at Dench’s home in Surrey.

Dench described the project as a privilege and said she was pleased to share the experience with McKellen.

She also said the programme would capture moments of friendship and continue the conversations begun in the series’ first instalment.

Broadcast details



*Tea With Judi Dench* is a one-hour special produced by Mindhouse for Sky Arts.

The programme is scheduled to air on Monday, August 31, on Sky Arts, Freeview and the streaming service NOW.

The preceding episode featured Sir Kenneth Branagh speaking with Dench at her Surrey home.

Sky said the new episode would continue the programme’s focus on conversation, storytelling and friendship.

The production’s executive producer is Nancy Strang, while Laurence Turnbull is credited as director and Suzy Burnet as production executive.

The programme’s discussion of sexuality is presented through McKellen’s own account of coming out and Dench’s support for the principle that people should neither be prevented from being themselves nor compelled to disclose private aspects of their identity.

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